In this episode, Clarence sits down with John Giles, Mayor of Mesa, Arizona for a moving conversation on bipartisan leadership. They discuss how Mayor Giles has navigated division and incivility in his community as one of America’s “most controversial conservative mayors” and what leadership means in an era of growing polarization.
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