Washington, D.C. — A new episode of the CitiesSpeak podcast from the National League of Cities (NLC) features Tim Shriver, CEO of UNITE, and Tami Pyfer, co-creator of the Dignity Index, in conversation recorded live in Boston at the Massachusetts Municipal Association’s Connect 351 conference. The episode explores their hopeful and practical approach to improving public discourse, pushing back against what they call the “contempt industrial complex,” and helping local leaders strengthen relationships in their communities.
The CitiesSpeak podcast features conversations with leaders and policy experts on the biggest issues facing America’s cities, towns and villages.
During the episode, Shriver and Pyfer reflect on the importance of dignity in civic life, offering perspective on how local leaders can model healthier dialogue and create change where it matters most — in school board meetings, city council chambers, and other community spaces. The conversation highlights dignity, civility, local leadership, and rebuilding trust in public life.
Highlights from the Conversation
On hope for improving public discourse:
“We’re starting to see baby steps that people are listening to Americans who are starving for a change. That gives me hope.”
— Tim Shriver, CEO, UNITE
On the role of local spaces in restoring healthier civic dialogue:
“Local leaders have an incredible opportunity right now to change the tone of public life – because the conversations that happen in city halls and school board rooms shape how communities treat one another.”
— Tami Pyfer, Co-Creator, The Dignity Index
On where change is happening:
“We’re seeing it on both sides. We’re seeing it in governors and municipal officials.” —Tim Shriver, CEO, UNITE
Listen to the full conversation, also available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube.